Mission #25

Discussion in 'Archived Missions' started by Zerosh, Sep 11, 2015.

  1. Zerosh

    Zerosh Sleeper Agent

    Use this thread to discuss theories and keep track of clues and hints.
    Also, please post here the link to any document (or similar) created to cooperate on the mission.
    Meanwhile I'll try to keep this post updated with useful info and hints.

    (IRC CHANNEL LOGS can be found on this page, under the #m25.1 to #m25.9 options in the dropdown menu. Click #division66 to choose.)
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  2. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1
    Demonology is an art form.
    Hint #2
    An ART form.

    Hint #1
    That's not a cipher, but it does have meaning.
    Hint #2
    So does the picture. All of it, even the border.
    Hint #3
    So, that shape, and the type of writing inside of it, go together to help put together the solution.
    Hint #4
    You also need the know what that writing inside the shape means.
    Hint #5
    The circle border is named enso.
    Hint #6
    There are four animals traditionally mythologized by the Chinese.
  3. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1:
    That's a road, if it wasn't obvious.
    Hint #2:
    Roads-- and other structures-- appear on maps.
    Hint #3:
    There are actually several acceptable answers. Look for nearby places that might get robbed.
  4. Treble

    Treble Senior Agent

    Hint #1
    Split each of the two codes into three parts, the first four, the second four, and the third four letters

    Hint #2
    This is a math cipher, so turn the letters into numbers

    Hint #3
    You must subtract both latter sets of four from the first set of four (the english word). The spiral refers to the pattern this creates.

    Hint #4:
    Is the last letter breaking the sequence? Try seeing how you can finish the sequence by doing things other than subtraction.
  5. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1:
    The hints are really the same as 25.1

    Hint #1;
    So, that's the same text type as 25.2. It again tells you what you're looking for.
    Hint #2:
    It's a name.
    Hint #3:
    Listen to the fantastic music again.
    Hint #4:
  6. Typhoon Jim

    Typhoon Jim Senior Agent

    Re: 25.7:
    Having difficulty narrowing down the target.
    I've named every damn boat one can visit in the harbor. The enochian implies that it brings lots of watery death which makes me think of a military vessel, of which there are several. But no joy.
  7. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1:
    Same source as before.
    Hint #2:
    The ships matter.
  8. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Yeah. I'm right there with you.
    I went looking through the lists of naval disasters of 1942, nothing came of that either. I am assuming a British ship. I haven't tried plugging through non-British ships that might have sank others in '42. Midway would be the main remainder from that standpoint.
  9. Typhoon Jim

    Typhoon Jim Senior Agent

    By this point I am thinking it is not a member of the obvious set
    those that are in the embankment; he is talking about a past event and therefore not the one he sank a bit ago
  10. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    You would be right.
  11. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1:
    You should know how to translate the words by now. The numbers are important.
    Hint #2:
    This is a past event.
    Hint #3:
    You are looking for the sunk ship, not the sinker.
    Hint #4:
    It's not British.
  12. Sytthas

    Sytthas New Agent

    Hint #1:
    Once you've looked up the flight, you can look up the call sign.
    Hint #2:
    Given the origin of the airline, it's rather stereotypical.
  13. dylanamite

    dylanamite Moderator

    I wrote out a full mathematical algorithm to solve the final part of 25.
    Just run this with iterations 1 through 12 and you'll have the answer :)

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  14. dylanamite

    dylanamite Moderator

    Okay so I realised my previous post had a few mistakes in it, so I subscripted the iteration for letter position and simplified the subtractions. This made the actual equation easier but means it needs more notation.
    I also had to note examples this wouldn't work for. If the 4 letter word starts with C, for example, we'd end up with a 0 which wouldn't work.
    Still the same idea - doing this for iterations 1 through 12 will give you the solution.

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  15. Aquilas

    Aquilas Senior Agent

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  16. Typhoon Jim

    Typhoon Jim Senior Agent

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  17. LionOfComarre

    LionOfComarre Senior Agent

    Now I have that damn Dr. Steel song stuck in my brain because of 25.9

    Make me (one), Copy and paste. Repeat...
  18. Zerosh

    Zerosh Sleeper Agent

  19. DeiDhena

    DeiDhena Senior Agent

    Functional (non algorithmic) solution: transformation of english word to abyssal language word

    1. english word as a string of characters
    L = (l1,l2,l3,l4) :: example L(VOID) = (V,O,I,D)
    2. english word in mathematical language
    X =(x1,x2,x3,x4) where xi = NUM (li) :: example X(VOID)= (22,15,9,4)
    3.abyssal word A as a concatenation of english words
    A = X & Y & Z :: example A (VOID) = VOID & VNHB & SJAI

    Functional definition of abyssal transformation

    Abyssal words are transformations of english words and a of function of an ordered set of two well-formed abyssal words, the language is mathematical and absolute (|| sign):
    A(YHWH) = L(YHWH) & Y (YHWH) & Z (YHWH)
    Y(YHWH) = X(YHWH)-|D1| with D1 = X(VOID) -Y(VOID)
    Z(YHWH) = X(YHWH)-|D2| with D2= X(FIRE) - Z(FIRE)

    Therefore A(YHWH) is a recursive transformation of itself and of the ordered set (A(VOID),A(FIRE))

    Abyssal language words have meanings within meanings, recursively nested?
    What are the meanings nested in A (VOID) and A(FIRE)?
  20. Greenhead

    Greenhead Senior Agent

    Well, I'm stuck on 25.7.
    I've put in all of the main ships sunk in 1942, reading up on Midway, Guadalcanal and whatnot, but there just aren't that many shipwrecks that killed "thousands". What am I missing?

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