Jarobi Sandbox Mission #2

Discussion in 'Archived Missions' started by Jarobi, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. Jarobi

    Jarobi Puppet Master

    Happy Easter everyone! I just added a new sandbox mission, a continuation of the first mission.

    Mission Type: Research
    Mission Difficulty: Hard
    Mission Number: 8
    Server: Beta 3.0.7
    Storyline: Standalone (not related to other beta missions - other than my previous sandbox mission)

    It's a little harder than the first, and I'm trying out something a little different. I would say more but I don't want to give anything away.

    Anyhow, good luck and hopefully your Easter sugar buzz will help.
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  2. Santiak

    Santiak MIA

    Thanks for the mission - was good fun ^^

    Only "issue" (why I put that in quotes is explained at the end) was that it was quite possible to skip to the final answer with just one step unlocked, and then find the rest of the keywords retroactively. However, considering the objective of the mission, I see no reason why that shouldn't be an option in this case.
    Makes it feel like it has it's own built-in hint system, which in turn makes it either less frustrating, or more rewarding, depending on whether you utilize all the "hints" to get the final answer, or manage to bypass them and skip straight to the answer.

    Either way, was very enjoyable. :)
  3. nikel

    nikel Lab 1852 - Neurals

    Awesome. I'll jump into it tonight when I get back to my place.
  4. Jarobi

    Jarobi Puppet Master

    Thanks Santiak, glad you enjoyed it!
    Yeah, I wanted to make it possible to find the final solution without having to do all the steps. Although, I didn't mean for it to be solvable after only one step unlocked - that is good to know.
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  5. Branwen

    Branwen Senior Agent

    Killing me, I want my little code XXX's back. hahaha going to bed.
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  6. Branwen

    Branwen Senior Agent

    Done--convoluted and plenty of tangents for me (was definitely more difficult)--but fun!! Thank you!
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  7. Jarobi

    Jarobi Puppet Master

  8. Branwen

    Branwen Senior Agent

    I did but I really wouldn't have gotten started if Santiak hadn't pointed the way, he was my saving grace!
  9. Santiak

    Santiak MIA

    Hehe, thank you for the kind words, but I'm rather sure you would've done just as well - if not better - without my confusing attempts at non-spoilery hints ;)

    Besides, it depends - in my opinion - on which semantic frame you land yourself in, and that's largely a matter of luck. It's also part of the reason for why we all, regardless of experience or affinity for mystery solving, get what feels like impossibly stuck at times - and so often resort to facepalming when we do discover the answer, because a given frame is so often self-evident once established - but so hard to break into if you're stuck in another one.

    Which is also why (this is turning into a recruitment post, isn't it?) we need as many Agents to join in as possible, regardless of experience with ARGs or puzzle-solving, because the chance that someone will land in the right semantic frame for a given puzzle increases with every new Agent, and it's also why there's no need to be shy about sharing stray thoughts or silly ideas, as any brain-fart or "silly" postulate can trigger that all-important frame shift.
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  10. Jarobi

    Jarobi Puppet Master

    Very well put Santiak. In these sandbox missions, but also in the game as a whole, we want to design missions that require knowledge on very specific topics, so that not only does the community need to communicate in order to find people of that particular skill set or knowledge base, but also so that when it is your turn to be the expert in a subject, you feel the pride and accomplishment of helping the whole community.
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  11. MauveStinger

    MauveStinger Active Agent

    I just finished it with some help from Branwen. I like the style and being able to try a different part when you get stuck, and once you get a correct answer it confirms your train of thought. The hardest part for me was knowing when to go for a generic term or a very specific answer. I spend considerable time searching for details that were absolutely unnecessary.
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  12. Branwen

    Branwen Senior Agent

    (oops, I wrote this earlier) Having attempted to pay-it-forward help wise, with the same non-spoilery--I know the feeling (that Santiak shared.) But it is a lovely aspect of the game to discover a rapport with someone who genuinely provides a different perspective/and wishes to help. One day, I hope to be the one with the epiphany--though I may have to write it up myself to do so ;)
    Another cool aspect is having agents say, "I've never played a game like this, and I'm lost and clueless," and then they make the leap and you can just feel their amped-ness--and they don't even realize that they brought an entire new perspective/advantage to the arena. And you sit back and are like, damn I wish he/she'd been in a group CFH with me when I was spending hours banging my head against the wall.
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  13. Rowyne

    Rowyne Division-79

    Branwen, you pay it forward beautifully. Just glanced at this sandbox but already have Lady Marmalade by Patti LaBelle playing in my mind. I can expect you will hear from me unless I pounce on Santiak!

    This sandbox now has a soundtrack in my mind! Dern you Puppetmaster *winks as she shakes her fist*
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  14. Sluagh

    Sluagh Active Agent

    I don't need help anymore.

    I'm not sure how to give clues for this mission without spoiling all of them.
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  15. Bink

    Bink Senior Agent

    This would have been close to impossible for me without help. I'm finding that some people had XXXs while some didn't though. This would have helped at least rule out some of the wild good chases I had done for days as I didn't have them. For those of you looking for hints I have a few which I will compose in a separate post after dinner.
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  16. Bink

    Bink Senior Agent

    Mission Hints: Warning due to the nature of the mission, these could all be considered 'heavy hints'. The final spoiler in each code is the solution.

    Code #1:

    Format: XXX
    Focus on something that was created in the years given

    Code #2
    Format: XXXXXX
    The word translates to Malaria. Which leads you to something else that has to do with code 1...
    Quinine is used in gin & tonics, tonics doesn't work so what other drinks used quinine in their making?

    Code #3
    Image search brings up marmalade.
    the first marmalades were made from oranges, and based on the first two solutions, we are going with a drink theme, so what goes into drinks?
    Orange Bitters

    Code #4
    Do this one last! I had to go back after finding the solution to get the connection
    you must copy and paste the solution as it requires the tilde atop the
    Crème de Noyaux
    Format: XXX XXXXXXX
    It's a drink that uses the previous answers as ingredients
    Old Etonian
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  17. Branwen

    Branwen Senior Agent

    Bink, I didn't have any X's either, it was all, "enter the code" drove me nuts.
  18. nikel

    nikel Lab 1852 - Neurals

    I really needed a stronger hint towards the theme before 1 1/2 parts here. For both the text and the image, I can't manipulate my search results to make the answer show even knowing the answers. Once I got the theme down it was quite enjoyable.

    For Dash text, the website I used to essentially find the answer spelled it "Creme de Noyeaux" instead of "Creme de Noyaux" blurg
  19. Santiak

    Santiak MIA

    The search terms I found that yielded the answers - some retroactively - were:

    #1: Cocktail 1769
    Hinges on making the initial connection between steps.

    #2: Cocktail Blanc // Quinine Blanc

    Found this after realizing there must be a reason for the colours - and having searched historical records of flags to no avail, that the colours were more basic than pointing at a given location. This, combined with the fact that "Malaria" was written in French, meant that, once the overarching frame of "booze/alcohol" was about, it wasn't a huge leap of faith that "yellowish" might be "white" in french (i.e. as in wine).

    #3: Cocktail Orange Quinine

    This was some trial and error, but the inclusion of Quinine yields the result, as "Bitters prepared from the tree bark containing the antimalarial quinine were occasionally included in historical cocktail recipes"

    And, as you might have guessed by now:
    #4: Tempus fugit prunus cocktail
    Will also yield the correct result.
  20. MochiInvasion

    MochiInvasion Senior Agent

    thank you for the hints bink! i didn't have any xxxs, and i think had i had them i probably/hopefully would have done better? but thank you for providing the answers!
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