Mission #27

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  1. crux

    crux Special Adviser

    Use this thread to discuss Mission 27 of Season 2.
    Feel free to post theories, clues, hints, or anything else, as long as you DO NOT POST THE ANSWER.

    Spoiler tags are your friend!
     
  2. urnammu

    urnammu Active Agent

    In stuck on the third part:
    The symbols are of course alchemical in nature, and I guess they relate to the transformation of lead to gold. I've been googling my socks off for rituals / topics related to this (secret fire, fire circle, golden dawn, magnum opus, great work, ..) but none of them work
    Am I on the right track?
     
  3. themadhuman

    themadhuman Division-79

    You might try rituals related to a certain kind of magic...
    concentrate on the description and symbol in the middle of the picture
     
  4. urnammu

    urnammu Active Agent

    That did the trick, thanks!
     
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  5. Wo1fsBan3

    Wo1fsBan3 Senior Agent

    Okay, I'll be honest, I'm not sure where to start here.
    I get the alchemical symbols, and that the symbol is made of fire or heat, but beyond that, I'm not sure how to find a anything about the ritual
     
  6. Watch2300

    Watch2300 New Agent

    Also stuck on this one.
    I think the lowest symbol in the image, is the symbol of "quicklime" (and not Neptune). The upper "lead".
    Left and right are probably "cold" and "hot"
    A nudge should be really fine.
     
  7. Watch2300

    Watch2300 New Agent

    :confused: Anyone?
     
  8. zaelong

    zaelong Moderator

    the top and bottom symbols are actually:
    the planck-constant and psi
    and the circles roughly represent:
    light and darkness
     
  9. exibition

    exibition Senior Agent

    I think these are the best nudges you need to get the solution.
    Pay attention to the wording of the search.
     
  10. Wo1fsBan3

    Wo1fsBan3 Senior Agent

    Finally got it... and I have a couple more nudges for people still stuck
    the Rite of passage is through a Vortex of pain and fear
    Try searching the nudges above exactly. I was surprised how quickly it came up
     
  11. Watch2300

    Watch2300 New Agent

    Really? First it is alchemy now it is quantum mechanics. To vague for me. Cannot find the logic in this. :(:confused:

    I found the solution though.
    For those who keep having some trouble;
    Image - stick with the oldest meaning of the middle symbol and arrows.
    Descryption - use in your search a synonym for circle.
     
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  12. No Name

    No Name New Agent

    I know this has to be staring me right in the face, but I can't even get started on part 1. I can't seem to find the correct material. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  13. zaelong

    zaelong Moderator

    @No Name one of the biggest clues youve got is the list of manufactors that they deliver to
    look at the main 'ingredient' they all need
    note that one of the adresses is a solar panel factory
     
  14. No Name

    No Name New Agent

    Thanks so much. This helped a ton.
     
  15. zaelong

    zaelong Moderator

    while in fact its only me rephrasing what dispatch has asked you :p
     
  16. berzerk0

    berzerk0 Active Agent

    Nudgery:

    Nudges provided in this post will include hints that include information hinted at in posts before it.
    If you wish, you can look at this post and get all hints given in this thread before this post was made.

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    27-1 Material Design

    Nudge:
    What number has 100 zeroes?


    Bigger Nudge:
    The material's most famous use has caused its name to be lent to nicknames for different locations. This recently has been expanded to include the space between two buildings (a narrow one, where you can find trash cans, cats or maybe 10 pins) but is most famous for the space between mountains.

    Biggest Nudge:
    The process used to create this variant of the material is named after it's discoverer. He discovered it by accident after dipping his pen in a container of (heated to a liquid state. antonym of antonym) tin instead of ink.

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    27-2 Contamination

    Nudge:
    It is highly likely you came across a page where this is mentioned in the last part.


    Bigger Nudge:
    Did you look at "The Free Encyclopedia?" I bet you did.
    But did you look at the whole page yet?

    Biggest Nudge:
    _____ not, want not.

    Did you die in GTA? _____D comes up on the screen.


    Tiesto's had a song in 2014 with the hook "I like us better when we're _____d."


    CLICK HERE FOR THE ANSWER
    Just kidding. What did I just do with your time?

    Look for that on the page of the Free Encyclopedia

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    27-3 Manufacturing Process

    It is very easy to fall into esoteric rabbit-hole here - watch your step (or don't and have fun looking at stuff)

    Nudge:
    Before you begin any research, let's start with the information immediately digestible.
    Look at the syntax of the answer, use this to narrow down your terms search and pick through the many, many articles out there.
    (You may come across some pretty... imaginative conspiracy theories regarding these symbols, so you'll want to know when to stop digging)


    Look at the prompt - what exactly are you being asked to find?
    Look at the syntax of the answer - you're probably looking for something with a concise name.
    If we were looking for the reason why hurricanes spin in different directions on either side of the Equator, we would find the "Coriolis Effect"
    Look for something like that but in ritualistic terms. What are words that you would associate with rituals that fit our syntax?


    Okay - let's move on.
    We've actually seen this symbol before, early on in the season. Makes sense, considering we're dealing with the same players.
    Do you remember what the center symbol was referred to as back then?
    It goes by many names and each one will take you down a different magical rabbit-hole - but we need to catch the right rabbit.
    We were after the right rabbit, and type of magick back then - you may even want to go back and check.


    Bigger Nudge:
    Double-Rod Pendulum

    This type of magic is related to the way Fractals are generated.
    Mandelbrot, Lorenz, and especially James A. Yorke have studied this - what did Yorke name their studies?



    Lorenz was actually a meteorologist, and he was brought into this field by things like the Coriolis effect.
    Consider what the Coriolis effect is known to influence - hurricanes, whirlpools, water flushing down a drain, all spinning forces of nature with some form of suction.


    Have you found what ritualistic word you need? I wouldn't be surprised if "ritualistic" and the word you are looking for have a common origin.
    Find some synonyms for ritual and keep the ones that fit our syntax on hand.


    Even Bigger Nudge:
    If that doesn't lead you down the right rabbit hole, coincidentally, someone named Caroll will.
    However, this isn't the same Carroll you might first think of when falling down rabbit holes or through looking glasses.
    This Carroll is alive as of this writing. And while he doesn't deal with connecting your thermostat to the internet, he is as involved as one can get with the IOT.
    (Just to make it clear, the I in this IOT does not stand for internet.)



    We might not have even bothered with the symbols on the outside yet - but know this:
    The Order Associated with this ritual appears to attempt to apply a scientific approach to their magicks - not necessarily (but occasionally) using magical or alchemical symbols.


    Remember, there was a time when magic (in the form of alchemy) and chemistry were indistinguishable.
    And since we've split the atom, perhaps chemistry and physics have merged as well.
    It seems to me that this order has taken the next step and connected magic to physics - particularly with 6.62607004 × 10-34 m2 kg / s




    Final Nudge:
    Do you remember what these are called?
    This is a link - but make SURE you want to click it as it may lead to the answer quickly.
    This was as subtly as I could do it besides the hints already mentioned.



    Did you find your ritualistic word yet?
    Good thing your life wasn't dependent on you not clicking on this final spoiler tag.
    If it were, and you had even taken the Eucharist, you'd be about to receive you viaticum.

    Note: No, I'm not really making fun of you for clicking on a spoiler tag that I wrote for you to click on.
    I just didn't know how else to bring up the right context.
    If you've made it this far, you're a smart cookie and I believe in you.
    I mean, not a Eucharist type of cookie, but you get the idea.

     
  17. Snarkk

    Snarkk Active Agent

    "Water" isn't just "water".It's two hydrogens and one oxygen.

    CASEINECS = 100260472330540

    Everything useful about 26.3 seems to be here. Maybe I'll put the accent on
    the fact that you already faced that kind of magick.
    , which seems to be the more efficient nudge for my way of thinking.

    This mission was too easy, that doesn't sound good for the last part of the season.
     
  18. mgelles

    mgelles Senior Agent

     

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